"honestly, based on 1. name recognition, 2. name association and 3. a misunderstanding that Hillary has enormous experience, capability, and great judgement. "
Referring, in Florida, to those who elected Jeb Bush, and G.W.?
As for Michigan, it is a Union state, with people who's jobs are drying up. Their votes should count, whether for Hillary, Obama, or Edwards. What your saying, as I am seeing it, is that it is cool for a state conditioned toward Obama or Edwards, South Carolina and Iowa, to have preferential treatment over states that those two wouldn't win?

"And... "Obama ran ads there"? What ads? "
National ads on cable broadcast into the majority of homes.

"Sorry, Shadow. I don't believe in Cherry-picking your voters. I believe in an open, fair vote, wherein EVERYONE knows that their vote will be counted. " I agree with that too. Cherry pickin' would be two states votes..uncounted. I do like your idea about Florida and Michigan, but...people would say that they already voted.

"(1), (2) & (3) Florida's a big, populous state. Also, the Democratic turnout, contrary to the traditional scenario in the contested states, was LOWER than the Republican turnout. "
Yeah, because campaigns barely happened there, on the Democrat side.

"(4) There were five Republican candidates. There were only three Democratic candidates. "
Leveled down, as the Democrats know when to get out, though..I thought Kucinich and Gravel were still on the ballot there, but got few votes.

"(7) The people who are most interested in seeing to it that Florida and Michigan are represented at the nominating convention are, of course, THE CLINTONS & their Centrist followers. "
Duh...If you were running, and you HAD won a state with a significant amount of delegates...wouldn't you want their votes counted"?
Also, ALL votes should be counted, not just the ones that favor Obama and Edwards. To pretend like Florida and Michigan don't count, opposes the very essence of the "right to vote".

"(8) Neither Michigan nor Florida were even IN PLAY. "
So...they would have went for Obama or Edwards, even though they are "Clinton Centrists",?
You're double talking.

"Finally . . . what's you're point?
That we should all roll over, play dead, and let the Party Machine tell us whom to vote for in November?"
1)You DO realize that as long as the Electoral College exists...your vote doesn't matter anyway, right?
I vote because I hope that some of them will be honest and carry my state's vote, but...I don't pretend that all of them are like this.
Do You?
2) The election system is screwed.
3) With the right support, one can pretend that they won an election, even though the people disagree(See Bush).
4) The votes, in our election, are screwed, as the no-brainer people(Not referring to yourself), do "protest votes", like Iowa AND New Hampshire, or who the news people promote the most, rather than looking at who has the policies that they agree with.
5) Elections ARE a serious thing, but our country does nothing to stop the votes from being counted on machines that can be hacked, along with listening to what the media says, rather than figuring out who is right for them. To add to that...the Electoral College should and delegates, should be eliminated, in favor of 1 vote counts. It still leaves an opening for election fraud, but not,as much, with the trash being checked, along with the judges who count the votes, to make sure that no votes were lost. Before you say it...I believe that the security who checks and confirms this, should be from the opposite party, or "Independent".
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