>>>>>>>If we don't negotiate with terrorists then we shouldn't abide this type of fear-mongering either. <<<<<<

Isn't the suspect in custody? What else would you have the state do yet? Send him to Guantanamo for waterboarding?

"Fear-mongering"? I think you are confused here. "Fear-mongering" refers to arousing fear through appeals to prejudice----such comments as yours in this case might be seen as 'fear-mongering' as generally understood. What the killer of Dr. Teller did might arouse fear---must murders do---but they are not fear-mongering itself.

He's not alone any more:

www.nytimes.com/2009/06/02...2blame.html

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...58.html

{He is not a member of the Right, the Far Right, or the way fucking far out there Right. }


www.ktka.com/news/2009/j...ned_wichita/

Suspect in Tiller murder returned to Wichita
Attorney General orders increased security for ‘certain individuals and groups’

Story by The Associated Press

Originally published 09:02 a.m., June 1, 2009
Updated 04:21 p.m., June 1, 2009


"Wichita — A man suspected of fatally shooting abortion doctor George Tiller in church was in jail Monday while investigators sought to learn more about his background, including his possible connections to anti-abortion groups. . .

"A man with the same name as the suspect has a criminal record and a background of anti-abortion postings on sympathetic Web sites. In one post written in 2007 on the Web site for Operation Rescue, a group that closely followed Tiller's work and legal troubles in recent years, a man identifying himself as Scott Roeder asked if anyone had thought of attending Tiller's church to ask the doctor and other worshippers about his work.

"In 1996, a 38-year-old man named Scott Roeder was charged in Topeka with criminal use of explosives for having bomb components in his car trunk and sentenced to 24 months of probation. However, his conviction was overturned on appeal the next year after a higher court said evidence against Roeder was seized by law enforcement officers during an illegal search of his car.

"At the time, police said the FBI had identified Roeder as a member of the anti-government Freemen group, an organization that kept the FBI at bay in Jordan, Mont., for almost three months in 1995-96. Authorities on Sunday night would not immediately confirm if their suspect was the same man."

www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/69151.html

By Judy L. Thomas | Kansas City Star

"The suspect in custody for the slaying of Wichita abortion doctor George Tiller was a member of an anti-government group in the 1990s and a staunch opponent of abortion . . .

"Dinwiddie said she met Roeder while picketing outside the Kansas City Planned Parenthood clinic in 1996. Roeder walked into the clinic and asked to see the doctor, Robert Crist, she said.

"'Robert Crist came out and he stared at him for approximately 45 seconds,' she said. 'Then he (Roeder) said, 'I've seen you now.' Then he turned his back and walked away, and they were scared to death. On the way out, he gave me a great big hug and he said, 'I've seen you in the newspaper. I just love what you're doing.' '

"Roeder also was a subscriber to Prayer and Action News, a magazine that advocated the justifiable homicide position, said publisher Dave Leach, an anti-abortion activist from Des Moines, Iowa.

"'I met him once, and he wrote to me a few times,' Leach said. 'I remember that he was sympathetic to our cause, but I don't remember any details.'

"Leach said he met Roeder in Topeka when he went there to visit Shelley Shannon, who was in prison for the 1993 shooting of Tiller.

"'He told me about a lot of conspiracy stuff and showed me how to take the magnetic strip out of a five-dollar bill,' Leach said. 'He said it was to keep the government from tracking your money.'

"Roeder, who in the 1990s was a manufacturing assemblyman, also was involved in the "Freemen" movement.

"'Freemen' was a term adopted by those who claimed sovereignty from government jurisdiction and operated under their own legal system, which they called common-law courts. Adherents declared themselves exempt from laws, regulations and taxes and often filed liens against judges, prosecutors and others, claiming that money was owed to them as compensation.

"In April 1996, Roeder was arrested in Topeka after Shawnee County sheriff's deputies stopped him for not having a proper license plate. In his car, officers said they found ammunition, a blasting cap, a fuse cord, a one-pound can of gunpowder and two 9-volt batteries, with one connected to a switch that could have been used to trigger a bomb.

"Jim Jimerson, supervisor of the Kansas City ATF's bomb and arson unit, worked on the case.

"'There wasn't enough there to blow up a building,' Jimerson said at the time, 'but it could make several powerful pipe bombs...There was definitely enough there to kill somebody.'

"Roeder, who then lived in Silver Lake, Kan., was stopped because he had an improper license plate that read 'Sovereign private property. Immunity declared by law. Non-commercial American.' Authorities said the plate was typical of those used by Freemen.

"Roeder was arraigned on one count of criminal use of explosives and misdemeanor charges of driving on a suspended license, failure to carry a Kansas registration and failure to carry liability insurance.

"He was found guilty and sentenced in June 1996 to 24 months of probation with intensive supervision and ordered to dissociate himself from anti-government groups that advocated violence.

"But in December 1997, his probation ended six months early when the Kansas Court of Appeals overturned his conviction. The court held that evidence against Roeder was seized by authorities during an illegal search of his car.

"Morris Wilson, commander of the Kansas Unorganized Citizens Militia in the mid-1990s, said he knew Roeder fairly well.

"'I'd say he's a good ol' boy except he was just so fanatic about abortion,' said Wilson, who now lives in western Nebraska. 'He was always talking about how awful abortion was. But there's a lot of people who think abortion is awful.'"

No -- he wasn't a member of the right, the far right or the way fucking far out there right. The Roeder who was a Freeman movement member was probably another person altogether.

>> They don't belong to any one. <<

won't stop the game from being played.

"was shot to death here Sunday in the foyer of his longtime church as he handed out the church bulletin."

Oh yeah, and if there is a guy the shooter is definitely going to hell. I never knew Satan recruited people to kill people in the name of god, in church while they hand out church bulletins.